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Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:15 am
by kant1781
Okay, this isn't really a Moodysson-related film, but it is also not so widely off topic that it would belong in the "Anything Else" section (if the moderators think otherwise, feel free to move the thread). It is an Israeli film from 2005 called "Close to Home" (Karov La Bayit) which I saw some weeks ago. It moved me a lot and I recommend it enthusiastically to you people here. It is about two 18-year-old girls who have to do their compulsory service in the Israeli Military Police in Jerusalem. The characters are literally "close to home" - close to Agnes and Elin, that is, though neither is blond ;-). Smadar is the brash, abrasive and rebellious one, Mirit is shy, lonely, dreamy - and sweet as a piece of cake. Naama Schedar, the actress playing Mirit, certainly plays in the Liljeberg League:

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You get the picture? :wink: You can also see the trailer on YT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChiAknFzLPc
The film is about how these two first ignore, then hate, but then love each other. There are hardly "lesbian" undertones, it is about the possibility of friendship in a hostile environment and in the face of violence and tragedy. Very touching indeed, beautifully written and performed. Try to see it on DVD or TV if you can!

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Important note: Please understand that this is not a political film, so recommending it is not a political statement! Believe me, I am well aware of the problematic role the Israeli army plays in the Middle East. So please let us not turn this into a political discussion. This film does not glorify the Israeli army, quite to the contrary, it is explicitly critical of the way the girls in uniforms are forced to treat Palestinians on the streets of Jerusalem. It shows the senseless of their duty and portrays them as kids who wish for a normal life but have to grow up in a country whose political situation forces them to do things they do not want to do and against which some of them rebel.

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:12 am
by fish
I'm glad you added that last paragraph. The politics of that part of the world are particularly ugly and I wouldn't like to see them intrude into our serene little world. :roll:

As a conflict zone drama the film seems to have a lot of potential and Naama Schedar certainly is attractive.

I think I'll do a little more research and may see if I can find the dvd. Cheers Dave.Image

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:58 pm
by Kso
Wow! Girls on the poster look's like Elin and Agnes! Especially right girl))

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:51 am
by Santi
The 've seen something above and it does not seem like it. :(

Do you recommend me this film? Is good or is normal? :shock:

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:57 pm
by Santi
This film don't like me :r

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:58 am
by DMt.
Santi almost certainly meant to have wrote:This film - I don't like it, me :r


or even just

"I don't like this film. :r "

:wink:

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:33 pm
by Santi
tkx

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:21 pm
by M83
When was the last time Kant was seen in these parts?
He still wrote the most brilliant essay on FA I ever seen.

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:45 pm
by Santi
Kant?

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:13 am
by Dahls
A german fellow forumer.

Yeah, I remember that essay, a really good read.
Where can it be found?

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:18 am
by Ian
Isn't it on here somewhere? Try the main Fucking Amal section, Dahls. I'm sure it was posted here... :T

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:28 pm
by M83
Dahls wrote:A german fellow forumer.

Yeah, I remember that essay, a really good read.
Where can it be found?


It was like a mini book. But he went through every scene and the meaning behind it. It must have took him years to do it. Anything you wanted to know, it was all in that essay.
I think its on the forum still. It's a must read.

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:56 am
by fish
M83 wrote:...It's a must read.

That's for sure, it was so good. :Y


A quest has been launched.
Christmas lunch at Ian's place for whoever finds it first.Image

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:26 am
by kant1781

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

PostPosted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:52 am
by Santi
downloaded, thanks.

When i have time I translate, santi