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fish wrote:In my view they are both exceptional films.
I love the performances of all three lead characters in NdP.
Great story, well told.
But I also agree with M83 in saying of FÅ "its a classic still to this day."
Hopelessly love Bex and Lex.
M83 wrote:I'm one of the few people who can't quite get the love in for Water Lilies on here, first off I think its a very good movie but its not in the same bracket as Fucking Amal cause it's too stand offish and a little too cold for my tastes basically very French. Plus I think it should have been cut for time as it does drag out a little but I did like the central performances from Pauline Acquart and Adele Haenel (who's a really top actress and probably the best out of either film and has gone on to bigger heights, and is actually a Lesbian in real life) and Acquart is excellent and very creepy in parts and Haenel is a very good Femme Fatale. The ending is very French. I didn't like the whole storyline with Louise Blachère, the friend. Plus I think Director/Writer Céline Sciamma has gone onto better things with Tomboy and Girlhood both better films but I can see why Pauline Acquart gets a lot of love on here, she is beautiful.
I just like Fucking Amal a lot more cause it wears its heart on its sleeve and is more welcoming in for its viewer, I think the film with its first 45 minutes or so (basically up to the kiss on the car) which I think are probably the best 45 minutes of film I've seen is Moodysson's bets writing still to this day. After a few years of rewatching it quite a few times, I think the films takes a little dip (not much) when Rebecka Liljeberg gets less screen time and Alexandra Dahlström Elin comes to the fore. I think Alexandra gives a great performance in the last 40 minutes or so, but the film loses something until Rebecka appears near the end. It's only a slight picky moment for me cause I think its a classic still to this day.
M83 wrote: They'd make a great double bill of coming of age Lesbian films.
Next, the stakes. In FA there are close to none. I mean, inside the story there are things that the protagonists do to get to some other things, but I see nothing to transcend this to another level, one that would be common to all audience. This is what I really expect from lesbian movies, to try to reach to all people who would watch, by putting a reading beyond "love lesbian story".
Santi wrote:In this forum there seems to be someone who needs confrontation but don't needs opinion .
bruno wrote:First: the people represented in the movie are stupid, violent, shallow. I think most of the boys and girls are young persons trying do develop and define themselves, and their characterization is quite realistic, with the good and the bad of these people. Of their shortcomings, many of them are aware. The adults are more mature and this is realistic, too. Owen seems to despise the characters a bit too much.
bruno wrote:FA is a story about finding yourself and your courage, fighting for your identity, your truths, your feelings and your love. For me.
So, there's a meaning behind the simple lesbian love story? I think for a lot of people there is.
bruno wrote:The fact that FA developed a strong following proves Owen's opinion is... wrong? Let's say "subjective."
bruno wrote:Anyway, what makes a cult movie? I think no one can say it (else we could have a lot of them!). FA managed to connect with several people, maybe for different reasons, and this is a fact.
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