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Postby Extra » Wed Jul 30, 2003 11:30 pm

Hello!
I'm new on this forum.
Yesterday I saw this movie..
And I have to say that this movie has changed me..
I feel strange wonderful feeling now, kind of schocked..
This movie is the greatest I have ever seen..
And I can't say why this film is so great..
Maybe if I would bisexual I would understand why.. but now..
Guys, please tell me why do you like this film??

Damn, It's so strange feeling now... If something would happenned..

I'm sorry for my terrible English!

See ya!
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Postby styvisor » Thu Jul 31, 2003 12:13 am

Hello Extra,

I know what you mean with the film. As soon as I watched FA for the first time I felt a bit like you felt, and only recently have I started to come back to normality. I found as much info about the film and especially Rebecka Liljeberg as soon as I could (its her beautiful dark eyes which got me), then ordered the film a couple of days later from Amazon.co.uk, and have watched it about 15 times now(sad but true) :D

But I have noticed on other forums as well as this one that what you said:

And I have to say that this movie has changed me..
I feel strange wonderful feeling now, kind of schocked..
This movie is the greatest I have ever seen..


is pretty much what every who has seen the filmhave said this as well. I don't know any other film which I have seen recently which has caused so much euphoria and anguish in equal measure within me.....

On behalf of Sydney and the admin team, welcome to his site. Hope you enjoy visiting it as much as I do B)

Cheers and beers,

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Postby clara » Mon Aug 04, 2003 11:33 pm

Hey there,
I saw this film on BBC4 on British TV last night. I had not previously heard of the film (in Britain it's called 'Show Me Love') but I was just absolutely mesmerised by it. I too don't know why, but the film has been on my mind all day today. I'm not a lesbian (well, not that I know of!) and I didn't just see the film as a lesbian love affair, I saw it as two people falling in love and I thought it was sweet. The acting was excellent and I thought that Rebecka and Alexandra did a great job because they made me really care about what happened between the two characters. That's rare in films today, don't you think? And I thought that it beat all the Hollywood "teenagers in love" movies, no question. I loved the final scene - I thought that it said so much about the characters whilst using such a banal subject as chocolate milk. Whilst watching the film, I had the feeling that I was watching something special and by the end, I absolutely knew that I was. I knew that I had to find out more about the film and the actors. I definitely will be looking to buy this on DVD.
Take care,
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Postby sydney » Tue Aug 05, 2003 12:51 am

Hi Clara,

welcome to the forum. Nice to hear that TV channels (in this case the BBC) are still broadcasting this movie after five years of release in Sweden.

I definitely will be looking to buy this on DVD.


Unfortunately there is no DVD release in the UK. Only the <a href='http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00005KCA6/ezfilmcom-21' target='_blank'>VHS tape</a> is available for the UK. But if you have a region 1 or regionfree DVD player then the <a href='http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00004YKR3/ezkidds-20/103-0977153-3200638' target='_blank'>US release</a> is an option. I do not know if it is possible to order this from the UK but the Dutch release is very cheap and still available at <a href='http://www.freerecordshop.nl/pages/productview.asp?ProductID=28152' target='_blank'>Free Record Shop</a>. But you can always try. You can turn off the subtitles by the way.

I hope you have the info you need about this movie. Just one word of consideration. I think it is very odd that there is no release on DVD yet in the UK. Well, not that I know off. Maybe in the near future, when people who watched BBC 4 wanted to buy the DVD. :D
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Postby clara » Tue Aug 05, 2003 6:15 pm

Hello Sydney,
Thanks for the info. Yes, as usual, we British get DVDs of banal stuff like the Big Brother TV series and the really rubbish second rate Hollywood movies but nothing decent like 'Show Me Love'. Is there any justice in this world?! For a while, I have been considering getting my DVD player changed to region-free, and now I have finally made up my mind to get it done.

I was looking through the TV listings on Sunday night and I just happened to glance at the BBC4 listings, which had 'Show Me Love' listed. Thank goodness I did! The film shown afterwards was 'Aimee and Jaguar' the German film, which I thought was good also, but it didn't affect me in the way that 'Show Me Love' did. I think that I'll stick to watching BBC4 in future as there is no way that either of those films would have been shown on the regular BBC channels, due to their subject content. The channel seems to show a lot of European films so it cannot be bad. By the way, the BBC website has listings for all documentaries and films shown on BBC4 and has analysis of the films being shown, so there is a page and forum devoted to 'Show Me Love' (bbc.co.uk).
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Postby sydney » Tue Aug 05, 2003 11:27 pm

Hej Clara,

This region thing is very annoying I think. But it will disappear slowly. There is a trend towards global release of movies, so that there will be no nead anymore to divide the world into regions. But this will take some years I guess.

It is very strange though that a lot of European movies are not released on DVD in the UK. I think there is a huge market for that, I think. Well I can only judge from where I stand (the Netherlands), but I see more and more people get interested in their own European product. The youth is still going to the pulp hollywood movies of course, but there are many people choosing international movies when they go to the video/DVD rentals.

BTW Clara, if you like this movie then I also suggest Sommaren med Monika (Summer with Monika) released by Tartan in the UK. It is a Swedish Movie from Bergman. It is also very genuine and real like Fucking Åmål I think.

Can you give me the address of the bbc where this review is given of FÅ? I cannot find it. Maybe it has been removed because the movie already had been broadcast. Thanks! :)
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Postby JUN » Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:44 am

;) Hi !!! everyone, I've read most of your messages about the movie <span style='color:blue'>FA</span>;

And yep I agree to everything you mentioned about the film. All I can say

is that it really changes your perspective towards life in general.

By the <span style='color:Green'>Sydney</span> do you still remember me?!

JUN from Darwin, Australia . . . :unsure:


Here's one of your reponses to me in "forum.rebecca-liljeberg.com"

I am 30 years old and live in the south of the Netherlands, near the German

border. My profession is asst. controller at a large dutch retail company.

Hobby is of course computer and films. Especially movies of Lukas Moodysson

are my favourites. I am also member of a dutch organisation called Startpagina.

I make a number of linking pages there. Also the fucking-amal portal page. Next

to this I have the portal site about the movie. I am very Australia minded (who

would have guessed? ). I hope to go to Australia in the European Summer of

this year. I visited places like Sydney , Melbourne, Alice Springs, Uluru, Cairns,

Townsville, Mackay, Brisbane, gold coast and so on. I was very impressed. I

never visited Darwin, but it is a place that I will visit the next time I go to

Australia.

Does this ring any bell at all ?
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Postby sydney » Wed Aug 06, 2003 12:36 pm

Hi Jun,

Nice to hear from you again.

it really changes your perspective towards life in general


I had a discussion recently about this in a dutch forum. Some people argued that a film couldn't have this impact on people. In fact I know and you confirmed this that this movie changes views of people. This is the strength of the movie. Very cool that a movie can do this. I also had this with the movie Lilja 4-Ever (also from Lukas Moodysson).

Does this ring any bell at all ?


Yes, it does. :) But I changed my plans and did not go to Australia. I went to Sweden instead. Have you already seen the <a href='http://fall.phpwebhosting.com/~ezkidds/fa/subpages/trolhattan.htm' target='_blank'>Trollhättan page</a>? Here are some pictures and movies I made about the filmlocation of Fucking Åmål.

Take care mate and hej då,
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Postby styvisor » Wed Aug 06, 2003 8:44 pm

Hey Sydney,

Can you give me the address of the bbc where this review is given of FÅ? I cannot find it. Maybe it has been removed because the movie already had been broadcast. Thanks!


Heres the the link for the review of Fucking Amal from the BBC:

<a href='http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/cinema/features/show-me-love.shtml' target='_blank'>http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/cinema/featur...w-me-love.shtml</a>

I just wish that I knew it was on BBC 4 :( .... Nevermind, it'll probably be on again in a couple of months.

Anyway, nice to see you back from your holidays Sydney. It looks like you enjoyed your trip to Sweden. Hope you've fully recovered from the cold you had before you went :o

I think that I'll stick to watching BBC4 in future as there is no way that either of those films would have been shown on the regular BBC channels, due to their subject content.


I doubt that BBC1 would show a film like Show Me Love, but BBC2 is pretty more liberal in what it shows. If it was Channel 4/S4C, then it's a definite cert that it would be shown...

Btw Clara, what part of the UK are you from? Anywhere near Cardiff?
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Postby clara » Wed Aug 06, 2003 10:10 pm

Hello again Sydney,

I have heard of 'Summer with Monika' but I haven't seen it. I will definitely look out for it - thanks for recommending it - I'll trust your judgement....... ;) I actually used to watch European movies (not the porn ones, honest!) when I was a teenager - I used to rent them from my local library. They were mostly French ones - I particularly remember 'Jules et Jim'. I loved that film. The problem I had was that nobody else I knew watched European movies, so I couldn't debate the merits (or otherwise) of the film with anybody. Nobody could understand why I wanted to watch a film in foreign language with English subtitles. But that's not the point, is it? Good actors can convey so much emotion with their faces, movements and voice and not just by the words they are saying, so that sometimes language isn't a barrier. An example of that is shown particularly with Fucking Amal.

I do enjoy watching American films and I do have the DVD versions in my collection but I have to say that generally, if I want to watch a film that portrays the human psyche and everyday life truthfully, then European films get my vote every time.......they are not sugar-coated like some American scripts are.

Hello Styvisor,

No, I'm an..........Essex girl. There, I've said it ;) I live about 35 miles from London. I do love a Welsh accent, though! :)

Sorry, forgot to insert quotes - will try to remember next time.........

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Postby sydney » Thu Aug 07, 2003 12:01 am

hi Sty,

Anyway, nice to see you back from your holidays Sydney. It looks like you enjoyed your trip to Sweden. Hope you've fully recovered from the cold you had before you went


Thanks! Yeah I enjoyed the holiday very much. We stayed a bit longer in Stockholm than intended initially. But we thought what the hell, Stockholm is jävla kul (very cool)! You see I learned some Swedish :)

I read that you also want to go to Stockholm? I really recommend that! I usually do not stay in cities that long. But this city has so many different faces and sites, you will have fun everyday in this place!

Thanks for the link of the BBC review of Fucking Åmål. I read something very interesting btw:

BBC wrote:
One of the most acclaimed arthouse debuts in recent years, Show Me Love received some impressive international write-ups and earned admiration from Ingmar Bergman, who labelled it "a young master's first masterpiece."


I am a big fan of Bergman also. When he says this about Lukas Moodysson then that is very great to hear! Let's be honest, Moodysson couldn't get a better debut then this movie.

hi Clara,

They were mostly French ones - I particularly remember 'Jules et Jim'.


I do not know this one. But you made me curious! :) But if you especially like the French films then Les Choses de la Vie is a very great movie. But I could go on for hours recommending films to you ;) So, I won't do that! :)

It is true that language shouldn't be a barrier to watch European movies. My personal top 10 has only 3 US movies in it. And I agree with you that European movies are more naturel than the US movies. Not that I disguss American movies. Not at all. I just think that a large budget does not guarantee quality.

btw if you are interested in my top 10 here it is:
1. Fucking Åmål (Show Me Love) (1998)
2. Paris, Texas (1984)
3. Lilja 4-ever (2002)
4. Christiane F.: Wir Kinder vom Bahnhof Zoo (1981)
5. Sommaren med Monika (Summer with Monika) (1953)
6. Festen (1998)
7. Donnie Darko (2001)
8. 2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
9. Tillsammans (Together) (2000)
10. What's Eating Gilbert Grape (1993)

(this is from a forum where I vote on movies and discuss them with members)

Btw I think I just gave you several recommendations. I said a minute ago that I wouldn't do that!!! :lol:

bye and hej då,
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Postby clara » Thu Aug 07, 2003 8:39 pm

Hey Sydney,

Well, I'm certainly spoilt for choice with your recommendations! I'll have to check out the films on your list............I'm intrigued! I saw Ossessione on BBC4 last night. It was made a bit before my time (well, actually, a lot before my time!) in 1942, but it wasn't bad. It was the Italian version of the 'Postman Always Rings Twice'. It made me late for work this morning because I didn't get enough kip!

Btw, Jules et Jim stars Jeanne Moreau and is about a woman who is loved by two men. It's more interesting than I'm describing it but I don't want to give too much of it away... :)

In your opinion Sydney, would you say that the British veer more towards the European way of thinking as regards nudity or towards the American attitude towards nudity? I'm asking out of interest because I've read that the USA is quite conservative in their attitude towards nudity whereas Europeans ( I believe, the Danes and Swedes! ;) ) are more uninhibited. I hope you can understand this - I don't think I've put the question across very well......

Hey Styvisor,

I hear that Cardiff is supposed to be quite a happening place. Or am I confusing it with Swansea?! I went to Pembrokeshire for 5 days a few years ago, but nowhere else in Wales.....lovely scenery though.
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Postby styvisor » Fri Aug 08, 2003 12:54 am

Hey Clara,

Cardiff has indeed become a happening place since the Millenium Stadium was completed in 1999. Since then, a lot of investment for tourism, sports and music has been pumped into the capitol and Wales as a whole. Every year Wales is becoming more well known around the world as well :D

If you do visit Wales again, go to the Brecon Beacons, the Gower Peninsular, Snowdonia or the Carmathanshire coastline for the beautiful scenery, and Cardiff, Swansea, Newport or Tenby for the nightlife ;)

Also, did you ever watch Film Four World and Extreme which was cancelled recently. I was quite gutted as they showed some exceptional films like The Enigma of Kasper Hauser(German), L'humanitie(French) and Weekend(French).....

Hey Sydney,

Did you know that you can vote for Fucking Amal on Foreignfilms.com? When I voted for it the other month it was at number 14, but having just checked, it is now at...... Number 2 in top rated films(being the only one from the 1990's to be included), and number 7 in top requested films. Amazing :D

Anyway,

Cheers and Beers,

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Postby bimboinhales » Fri Aug 08, 2003 1:17 am

Hi all. I'm new too, having, like Clara, watched it on BBC 4 at the weekend. I have since watched it everyday and I reckon that if I keep this up I will be speaking fluent Swedish in no time!!

On the subject of DVDs, ebay has quite a selection-can you remove the subtitles from all the countries' DVDs?

Also, I have reda the FA 5 years later start on this website, but is there any more 'FA fan fiction' on the web?
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Postby sydney » Fri Aug 08, 2003 2:37 am

Hi Clara,

In your opinion Sydney, would you say that the British veer more towards the European way of thinking as regards nudity or towards the American attitude towards nudity? I'm asking out of interest because I've read that the USA is quite conservative in their attitude towards nudity whereas Europeans ( I believe, the Danes and Swedes! wink.gif ) are more uninhibited. I hope you can understand this - I don't think I've put the question across very well......


Personally I think that the UK in general is very strict as it comes to nudity and faul language. I chose the name Fucking-amal.com because it is the original title. this title cannot be used in the UK, Ireland and the US for instance. Therefore the title "Show me love". however Fucking Åmål discribes te movie in two words. Åmål the town, and fucking as in "I do not like this town because of its narrowmindedness". Lukas could not think of a better title in my opinion. So, as it comes to language and nudity then I think that the UK leans more to the U.S. But that's just due to the institutions you have. I think that a lot of people are very liberal in the UK and lean more towards Europe. The institutions make it sometimes difficult. :angry:

Btw you can reach this site also using the domain <a href='http://www.showmelove.tv' target='_blank'>http://www.showmelove.tv</a>. Especially for the US and UK.

Btw What do you think about this subject. Do you consider yourself and the british in general as Europeans or do you think that the british lean more towards the US as it comes to culture?

I read something about Jim et Jules on a dutch forum. I will try to get hold of it. :) If you have other suggestions then I am always keen on learning more about those!

Hi Sty,

Did you know that you can vote for Fucking Amal on Foreignfilms.com? When I voted for it the other month it was at number 14, but having just checked, it is now at...... Number 2 in top rated films(being the only one from the 1990's to be included), and number 7 in top requested films. Amazing


This is idd greet news. Would it help if I voted the maximum.... no.1 position is always nice :) Especially this movie! I have heard of this site, but never participated. I think I will register. B)

Hi, bimboinhales

Welcome to the forum :)

Hi all. I'm new too, having, like Clara, watched it on BBC 4 at the weekend. I have since watched it everyday and I reckon that if I keep this up I will be speaking fluent Swedish in no time!!


Well, I have seen FÅ over 150 times. I stopped counting, but idd it helps you to learn Swedish. When I was on holiday in Sweden I could understand and even talk with people. I must admit that my personal interest in the Swedish language is huge. So, I also watched a lot of other Swedish films in the past and I learned a lot from online courses. Next summer I intend to do a summer course in Sweden by a dutch teacher.

Also, I have reda the FA 5 years later start on this website, but is there any more 'FA fan fiction' on the web?


Did you like the FÅ 5 years later script by Peter?

There is a lot of fan stuff on the web. you can try out my portal page on <a href='http://fucking-amal.start4all.com' target='_blank'>http://fucking-amal.start4all.com</a> with a bundle of links about Fucking Åmål.
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