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eiger wrote:FA is not only my "favourite" film now, it's in fact the "only" film that made it to my heart. Since I've seen it, I know that a movie can be beautiful, it can be breathtaking, it can be far more than only 90min of entertainment, it can change somebody's life
"lebensbejahend" in german but leo.org found no other translation, word by word it means "saying yes to life"
What do you think about Agnes acting and in particular her final laughter in the last scene?
eiger wrote:What do you think about Agnes acting and in particular her final laughter in the last scene?
kant1781 wrote:"lebensbejahend" in german but leo.org found no other translation, word by word it means "saying yes to life"
Yeah... good word. I'd try "life-embracing", but I don't know if that is a proper English word.
What do you think about Agnes acting and in particular her final laughter in the last scene?
I think her (Rebecka's) laughter is completely real and unstaged, and that at least two times she is just about to fall out of character. I take this from the funny way she sometimes looks in an unexpected direction to the right, where I suppose Lukas Moodysson was standing, as if she expected him to say "Cut!" and reshoot because she was laughing to much. From her facial expression, I get the impression that in these seconds she has already stopped "acting", but then, as nothing happens and Alexandra keeps going, she just plays along. I have no confirmation for this impression of mine. But I think it's part of the energy and power of that iconic scene. It makes the scene come alive so much - this one, for sure, is (as you said) down-to-earth, and real-life.
NOSSYDOOM wrote:She have said that she was supposed to laugh, but the laugh is real.
kant1781 wrote:NOSSYDOOM wrote:She have said that she was supposed to laugh, but the laugh is real.
Where did she say that, nossydoom? Maybe I read it there and forgot about it.
mpox wrote:We usually say "life-affirming".
If Rebecka is looking off to the right because that's where Moodysson is, or whether Agnes is too shy to look at Elin, or feels that if she confronts too directly what surely must seem like a dream come true it might vanish, or... does it matter? Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.
NOSSYDOOM wrote:On "aftonbladet chaten"
Back in 98, chating online with people, she was asked the question if she is supposed to laugh in the scene.
You can read it here, but it's all in Swedish
http://hem.passagen.se/jaymz81/Fucking/index1.htm
eiger wrote:Hi,
thanks for your responses. First I must say that i regularly go mad on watching the scene; I'll try to tell you...
I agree with mpox that their shy acting is quite realistic regarding the plot. I also think kant's theory about Rebecka's looks to the right is possible. Probably everyone here can confirm that he "loves" the laughter (so do I) or at least feels good with it because there's something special about it. Now I want to leave the level of observation and boost this f****** down-to-earth scene sky-high by comparing it with elements from Hermann Hesse's "Siddhartha". I hope there's someone here who has read this marvelous book and can follow my bad phrasing anyway. For all the others: Raed it(!), but maybe you can get something out of my lines nevertheless (the wikipedia artcle isn't that bad as well).
So now: Warning, most likely, this has nothing to do with Moodysson's intention of the scene and is pure crap. Otherwise, you can read it under this motto, written by a big FA-fan : "One of the beautiful things about art is that there is more inside it than even its authors have any idea of".
Since I have read the book, I'm hooked on the character of Vasudeva, the ferryman. He has a magical aura. In particular, I'm always deeply moved the way he leaves Siddhartha as an enlightened man, with a lucent smile (it would be helpfull to have an english translation, but I do my very best not to distort the meanings). For me, this expression of an old man described beautifully by Hesse and Agnes laughter in the very last moment of the film acted by Liljeberg and masterminded by Moodysson go hand in hand. They spread the same spirit of humanity, freedom, happieness and life-affirmation (thx mpox) that this world lacks of nowadays. They have the same power. After the first time I've seen it, I was unsure, what it was, but already then I was caught by the laughter, as if it wants to say something without words. And then, at the second time, I suddenly felt the parallels between these two masterpieces which have completely nothing in common regarding the action.
Well, it took me quite a while to write this, so I have to stop now although I've got many other ideas beside this main point, which isn't acted out completely. I'm looking forward to your comments and hopefully someone wants to join me drifting deeper in the matter...
greets eiger
They spread the same spirit of humanity, freedom, happieness and life-affirmation (thx mpox) that this world lacks of nowadays.
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