Water Lilies

[fish]

Looks like it might be a really cute film.

Very dangerous subject with such young kids though.
I hope it's treated with tonnes of sensitivity.

[snaps]

Katka should watch ''Water Lilies'' to get the full perspective on FA.

[katka]

yeah maybe I´ll watch it, but actresses don´t look so cute and nice as Elin and Agnes, but maybe it´ll interesting to me

[katka]

I see now some clips on YT and ohhh...it looks as big enough worry and depressed in one of two girls so I don´t know if I would want watch on it.....

[Ian]

It isn't the feel good movie FA is, certainly. Though it's not THAT depressing either.


Pauline Acquart's pretty cute.

[katka]

so I watched it last night.... well it was quite similar as FA. At the end of the movie I realized what was actually Floriane bitch that went from the start just about entertainment, and that if she manages to seduce Mari or not. All this reveals one of the last their sentences -,,... well see that it was not so hard ....'' and then say that the guy there is not so bad and leaves behind him. So she did not like Mari one a bit. Also I didn´t understand the very last scene in the pool. So how did it end? I hope those two girls did not commit suicide ....

[snaps]

Floriane is a ''narcissist'' who is only really ever in love with herself. She uses others, both boys and girls to make herself look better. If you see the very last scene, she is dancing on her own smiling to herself at her own power to control others, behind her all the boys are ignoring her because they know what she is really like, even though she is physically attractive.

No the girls do not commit suicide. Far from it. When Marie jumps in the pool it is to wake herself up, bring herself out of her dreamworld, a sort of re-birth. Anne finds her and jumps in the pool out of solidarity at the way life sucks. Their friendship is re-established after a period in which they both went after the desirable but unobtainable. When they link hands and float together in the closing shot it visually reflects the French title ''Naissance des Pieuvres'' i.e. The Birth of Octopuses.

[katka]

yeah I understand yet thanks for your explanation yet I saw it only once, so I have not found the hidden meaning at the end of the film, which is therefore still a lot but in a nutshell. Maybe I eventually figured it out myself if I dropped it several times, but I'm impatient ....

[Ian]

What snaps is trying to say is...


... Marie realises she's better off without Floriane cause the latter is a skank.

[katka]

O.K. it´s clearly cause Floriane is realy miserable, but I have to say that there was at times funny if I need to compare with the Lost & D. so this was better, because it was chamber as well as FA. Lost and D. was really quite a melodrama. And I prefer like movies where not talk much.

[katka]

the last song in the film is very nice, I listen to it over and over....

[Ian]

Can't really remember it. Will have to watch it again, clearly!

[Ian]

Saw this again last night. Excellent - really enjoyed it. Think I liked it a lot more 2nd time.

Pauline Acquart.

[katka]

more Adele Haenel.... has such a cheeky look...

[snaps]

I'll repost this as intend to watch it again tonight

NAISSANCE DES PIEUVRES
Water Lilies

At fifteen
Lost somewhere between
Lust and love
Desire on fire

When words don’t come forth
Because the words to express
What you feel
Don’t exist

Breathe breathe
Tease tease
Ease Ease
Please please

Making sense
Out of nonsense
But aching need
Plants its seed

Eat her half-eaten apple
Chew on its bitterness
From fruit of knowledge learn
Is what your heart yearns
Drink your own tears
For salty relief
A thirst that rages
A hunger that burns

When God and Man
Condemn Woman
Nothing to believe
That gives relief

To be a slut and whore
Or
Prissy virgin sainted
Untainted

No in-between
Kiss her lipstick kiss
Planted on your window pane
Be numbed to the pain

Plunge into the pool
No fool
Be christened and reborn
New hope forlorn

Let the water take you
Make you
Feel weightless
Careless

Float on
Go with the drift
Drown in your sorrow
Today just repeats tomorrow


Inspired by the film NAISSANCE DES PIEUVRES, directed by Celine Sciamma.