Cheevers4ever wrote: I never got the Whole Water Lilies love on here, I can see thats its the nearest film we got to a Fucking Amal since that films release and the leads are every bit as cute. But i found it took itself way way too serious and is so terribly French. Fucking Amal had heart and has the better performances.
Ima sorry you feel that way Cheevers.
I really don't want go over my exposition again. Ultimately I don't see what point it serves
There are as many points of dissimilarity as there are points of comparison. But, I agree they do occupy common turf. But so does ''Kamikaze Girls'' and that is a totally different (Japanese) culture. You say NdP is 'so terribly French.' I totally agree. But then FA is so TERRIBLY Swedish. That's what endeared it to its home audience. Poking fun at liberal Swedish sensibilities, especially when they are hypocritical, best summed up in Mama Karin's attitude i.e. I fully support gay culture, just so long as it's not MY daughter.
I think NdP/WL DID break important new ground, in dispensing TOTALLY with the adult/family perspective.
Just as FA, no doubt influenced Celine's thinking, I have recently re-evaluated Nordzee Texas, which does bear repeated watchings. Undoubtedly influenced by NdP it presents the story PURELY from the perspective of the protagonists.
I'm sorry to be contentious , but you say you found NdP ''took itself way way too serious''. I am having to make some dire assumptions here. If you had ever been through a same-sex attraction scene in your teens, I don't believe you would be even posing that as a serious question.
Likewise. I don't wish to challenge your assertion that ''Fucking Amal had heart and has the better performances''. Let the audience judge. Frankly, I think that is EXTREMELY unfair on the actors. The difference is NOT made by juvenile actors but by the DIRECTORS ability to work with them and draw out their best performances. Sciamma certainly scored on this again in her film ‘Tomboy’.
FA was certainly a breakthrough in this style of direction. It has been carried forward into the method of the Swedish film ‘Let The Right one In’. Most recently, I have seen it best portrayed in the multi-award winning Danish film ‘In A Better World’ Again, like Nordzee Texas, the protagonists are boys, not girls.
You say ‘the leads are every bit as cute’ ?? Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.