Agnes and Elin in the Army

Discuss Lukas Moodysson's other films and films featuring actors in his films here.

Moderator: Ian

Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby kant1781 » Fri Mar 05, 2010 3:15 am

Okay, this isn't really a Moodysson-related film, but it is also not so widely off topic that it would belong in the "Anything Else" section (if the moderators think otherwise, feel free to move the thread). It is an Israeli film from 2005 called "Close to Home" (Karov La Bayit) which I saw some weeks ago. It moved me a lot and I recommend it enthusiastically to you people here. It is about two 18-year-old girls who have to do their compulsory service in the Israeli Military Police in Jerusalem. The characters are literally "close to home" - close to Agnes and Elin, that is, though neither is blond ;-). Smadar is the brash, abrasive and rebellious one, Mirit is shy, lonely, dreamy - and sweet as a piece of cake. Naama Schedar, the actress playing Mirit, certainly plays in the Liljeberg League:

Image

You get the picture? :wink: You can also see the trailer on YT:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChiAknFzLPc
The film is about how these two first ignore, then hate, but then love each other. There are hardly "lesbian" undertones, it is about the possibility of friendship in a hostile environment and in the face of violence and tragedy. Very touching indeed, beautifully written and performed. Try to see it on DVD or TV if you can!

Image

Important note: Please understand that this is not a political film, so recommending it is not a political statement! Believe me, I am well aware of the problematic role the Israeli army plays in the Middle East. So please let us not turn this into a political discussion. This film does not glorify the Israeli army, quite to the contrary, it is explicitly critical of the way the girls in uniforms are forced to treat Palestinians on the streets of Jerusalem. It shows the senseless of their duty and portrays them as kids who wish for a normal life but have to grow up in a country whose political situation forces them to do things they do not want to do and against which some of them rebel.
User avatar
kant1781
Crew Member
 
Posts: 502
Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 6:01 pm
Location: Berlin

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby fish » Fri Mar 05, 2010 4:12 am

I'm glad you added that last paragraph. The politics of that part of the world are particularly ugly and I wouldn't like to see them intrude into our serene little world. :roll:

As a conflict zone drama the film seems to have a lot of potential and Naama Schedar certainly is attractive.

I think I'll do a little more research and may see if I can find the dvd. Cheers Dave.Image
Fish
User avatar
fish
Crew Member
 
Posts: 16659
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:34 am
Location: Adelaide, Oz

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby Kso » Tue Mar 23, 2010 4:58 pm

Wow! Girls on the poster look's like Elin and Agnes! Especially right girl))
User avatar
Kso
Crew Member
 
Posts: 333
Joined: Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:21 pm
Location: Russia,Moscow

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby Santi » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:51 am

The 've seen something above and it does not seem like it. :(

Do you recommend me this film? Is good or is normal? :shock:
User avatar
Santi
Crew Member
 
Posts: 2980
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:31 am
Location: Catalonia

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby Santi » Mon Dec 15, 2014 9:57 pm

This film don't like me :r
User avatar
Santi
Crew Member
 
Posts: 2980
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:31 am
Location: Catalonia

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby DMt. » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:58 am

Santi almost certainly meant to have wrote:This film - I don't like it, me :r


or even just

"I don't like this film. :r "

:wink:
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" - Voltaire
User avatar
DMt.
Crew Member
 
Posts: 3063
Joined: Tue Nov 29, 2011 9:24 pm

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby Santi » Tue Dec 16, 2014 10:33 pm

tkx
User avatar
Santi
Crew Member
 
Posts: 2980
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:31 am
Location: Catalonia

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby M83 » Mon Dec 22, 2014 7:21 pm

When was the last time Kant was seen in these parts?
He still wrote the most brilliant essay on FA I ever seen.
M83
Gold Member
 
Posts: 108
Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:12 am

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby Santi » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:45 pm

Kant?
User avatar
Santi
Crew Member
 
Posts: 2980
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:31 am
Location: Catalonia

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby Dahls » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:13 am

A german fellow forumer.

Yeah, I remember that essay, a really good read.
Where can it be found?
User avatar
Dahls
Crew Member
 
Posts: 1404
Joined: Sat Jun 23, 2012 11:53 am
Location: Trøndelag, Norway

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby Ian » Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:18 am

Isn't it on here somewhere? Try the main Fucking Amal section, Dahls. I'm sure it was posted here... :T
User avatar
Ian
Webmaster
 
Posts: 16102
Joined: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:39 am
Location: Round the Bend

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby M83 » Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:28 pm

Dahls wrote:A german fellow forumer.

Yeah, I remember that essay, a really good read.
Where can it be found?


It was like a mini book. But he went through every scene and the meaning behind it. It must have took him years to do it. Anything you wanted to know, it was all in that essay.
I think its on the forum still. It's a must read.
M83
Gold Member
 
Posts: 108
Joined: Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:12 am

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby fish » Wed Dec 24, 2014 5:56 am

M83 wrote:...It's a must read.

That's for sure, it was so good. :Y


A quest has been launched.
Christmas lunch at Ian's place for whoever finds it first.Image
Fish
User avatar
fish
Crew Member
 
Posts: 16659
Joined: Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:34 am
Location: Adelaide, Oz

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby kant1781 » Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:26 am

User avatar
kant1781
Crew Member
 
Posts: 502
Joined: Tue May 17, 2005 6:01 pm
Location: Berlin

Re: Agnes and Elin in the Army

Postby Santi » Sun Feb 15, 2015 1:52 am

downloaded, thanks.

When i have time I translate, santi
User avatar
Santi
Crew Member
 
Posts: 2980
Joined: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:31 am
Location: Catalonia

Next

Return to General

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests

cron